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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 15:00 (3756 days ago)

The recent message thread "Dog Owners - Zihuatanejo's Authorities Don't Want You Here" apparently got deleted by accident. Bummer because it had so many good and useful comments.

My friends at the Sociedad Protectora de Animales - HKP (SPAZ - HKP) are going to have a meeting with the local authorities on this matter, and they would like to take along with them some of your comments to help make the argument for allowing responsible pet owners to be able to take their pets to our local beaches without having to have special permits or walk only in restricted areas. We are trying to get the local government to change the law on the books. All of the local hotel and restaurant associations are on board with us, but your comments would also be very helpful, even if you have already decided to go someplace else for your vacation due to the current ban on pets at our beaches.

Thanks for helping us out. We are trying to you, too. Warm saludos.

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by Timmac @, Steilacoom, WA, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 15:22 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

This is a very short sighted policy. Most of the tourists that travel,with their dogs stay for long periods of time and are much more valuable to the economy than those of us who visit for shorter periods of time. My wife and I are dog lovers and actually enjoy meeting the dogs that folks are walking and watching them play in the surf. It would seem to me that rather than banning dogs,passing and enforcing leash and scoop laws would have the same benefit without sacrificing some of your most valuable visitors.
We have a somewhat similar situation here. My wife and I enjoy going to local craft fairs. The dogs make lots of new human friends and we almost always purchase. But if dogs aren't allowed we simply don't go. I think the same thing will likely happen should they not change their position.

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by Ballarose ⌂ @, Ontario, Canada, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 15:39 (3756 days ago) @ Timmac

We chose Zihua for our annual three-month stay because it was dog friendly. This was three years ago. We are already committed for this year but most of our beach time will be spent at Playas Larga and Blanca, frequenting the restaurants and businesses there so that we can relax and enjoy our time and not worry about being hassled with our small dog. We are responsible pet owners - she is always on leash and we always pick up after her. It would make much more sense to fine those who do not clean up after their dogs vs. banning them altogether.

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by Semma4 @, Zihuatanejo, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 16:34 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Six years ago my wife, myself and our Cavalier King Charles Spaniel moved from San Miguel de Allende to Zihuatanejo because we ALL fell in love with La Ropa Beach. We bought an expensive condo behind the Tides (now Viceroy Hotel)because we loved walking and playing in our front yard - La Ropa Beach. The last two years have been very unpleasant for us, having to deal with rude and officious people trying to enforce on us this new and unnecessary change of local regulation introduced by the previous administration. Whilst it is accepted that regulation regarding dog control and hygiene are acceptable, banning family members outright is draconian in the extreme. As I often, as a fulltime resident, meet with many visitors to La Ropa and the Viceroy Hotel, I can assure you that many regular visitors to this town have stopped coming as a direct result of no longer being able to bring their companion pets with them. My wife is now quite frightened to go with our dog to the beach, but I will continue to walk my dog in the morning and evening until I am either arrested, fined or succumb to the pressures of officialdom and place my Residence on the market and look for another beach to go and live on.

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by katherine @, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 17:01 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

In 2010, my husband and I purchased a condo in La Madera which we have since occupied for 7 to 12 months per year. We decided to purchase property in Zihuatanejo because we love the area, and especially enjoy daily walks with our dog on Playa la Ropa. At the time our dog joined our family, we were actually staying at the Catalina Beach Resort. We never dreamed that dogs would be banned from the beaches in Zihuatanejo. Had we known that, we would not have chosen to purchase a home in Zihua. The unpleasantness we have come to fear each time we step on the beach with our 8lb Chihuahua makes us want to spend less time in our second home.

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by Quadra Paul @, British Columbia, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 18:55 (3756 days ago) @ katherine

I have been coming to Zihua for years and I have never seen dogs misbehaving on the beach! People bring their dog there for exercise, and the ones that do this are demonstrating their love and affection for their animals!! Dogs that get lots of exercise are well behaved and happy, and so are their owners! As Cesar, the "dog whisperer" says the three most important things for a dog are exercise, discipline, and affection!(in that order!) The only dogs I have seen who cause problems are the ones who are ignored by their owners!

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by katherine @, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 08:39 (3755 days ago) @ Quadra Paul

:megusta:

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by GW, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 19:16 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I had serious thoughts about buying in Zihua and have looked at numerous properties. My only hesitation was the variability in airline schedules and prices from the Bay Area.

I wouldn't consider this for an instant now because of this dog banning nonsense. The writer below is correct- people who come with their dogs often stay longer than those without pets.

Not only that, but people who travel with pets are the most responsible pet owners you can find. It's a tremendous hassle to take your dog out of the country, and we obey the rules. In fact, I have been in several countries- Peru, Czech Republic and others- where people stare and laugh at us when we pick up our dog poop because it isn't even done there.

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by frostbite @, Hamilton MT, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 20:01 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

While we are presently dog-less, but when we did have one, we were always religious about picking up after her and have witnessed dog owners doing the same on Zihua beaches. This silly regulation banning dogs from the beaches needs to go. We have traveled to Zihua for over 15 years and built a second home there. Over this period of time we have witnessed a precipitous decline in foreign visitors. There is much the local authorities can do to reverse this trend. Repealing the no dogs rule would be a good first step.

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by Doozer, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 20:08 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

We have been coming to Zihua for going on 10 years now. We have gradually increased how long we stay and now are staying for 3 to 4 weeks. We can't leave our 6 lb bundle of love home for that long and Zihua was the perfect place to bring her with us. When my husband retires in a couple years I'm sure we will stay longer. We would hate to have to look for another place to go where we can take our dog because we love Zihua so much. We are responsible dog owners, always cleaning up after her and keeping her on the leash. I truly hope that they will reconsider banning dogs on the beaches.

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by qwerty @, Oregon, USA, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 20:14 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

While I am not a dog owner I have no problem with allowing dogs (under control of their humans) on the beaches in Zihua. I have never run across dog waste while enjoying the beach. I agree that people who jump through all the required hoops to bring their pets from outside the country are very likely to understand the need to control and clean up after their pet on the beach.

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by rojo, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 21:07 (3756 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

As a full time resident in Zihua, and the care taker of 3 dogs that were found on the beach, 2 that needed medical care and the vet said 1 probably wouldn't make it, we proved him wrong. They are very good companion and now very healthy. We saved them from the cities eradication program and they have a real good life now. We take our dogs on regular walks, which if we miss one of the walk days, they certainly let us know. The ill intended rules that are in place are causing many people to look at other destinations than Zihua because of this stupid rule. The city of Zihua would be better off by deleting this ruling before the regular tourists change their plans. The city should be more active in dealing with the dogs throughout the area that are a danger to dogs being walked and their handlers. An incident whereas a loose pitt bull that attacked a 80 year old woman and her dog which was reported to the police, tourist police, and Salud office went totally unheeded. While at their office, their dog napping truck arrived with the box full of dogs, but they couldn't do anything about this problem dog. In La Madera there is still one dog with an irresponsible owmer that has attacked at least 6 small or old dogs out for a walk.

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by GW, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 22:59 (3756 days ago) @ rojo

Another very good point-
Even before the anti-dog-on-the beach regs popped up, I had already crossed off the idea of buying anything on the beachfront in La Madera, which I happen to prefer to La Ropa, due to the consistent reports of attacks from aggressive, owned- not stray- dogs. Truly don't want to walk around fearing my little guy and/or I will be attacked; that's obviously of far more conern than getting a ticket. But really, if the bureaucrats want to crack down on dogs and pet owners, why not start with an aggression problem versus some shit in the sand, of which I suspect there is a small amount indeed.

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by GW, Tuesday, August 02, 2016, 23:05 (3756 days ago) @ GW

This is a reply to myself, LOL

If any or all of this has to do with money, or if money can fix it- which it usually can, unfortunately- I'm for it! Charge us a usage fee for pets on the beach, or a temporary dog license, or whatever, could be divided between hands holding out for graft and the local spca. Like they say, win-win.

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by victorio, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 00:13 (3756 days ago) @ GW

Hola
We have been coming to Zihua for a while with our mutt. We all enjoy the beach at La Ropa. More importantly our dog loves going there. He sits at our feet and people watches. He causes no problems. The restaurant we go to loves him. Unfortunately, on our next visit, we will have to spend more time at Playa Larga. They are dog friendly there. Love it there, it's just a bit more of a hassle to get to than La Ropa. Zihua will loose our patronage (money). Might have to consider a change in venue to a more dog friendly area next time because we are not going to Mexico without our dog.

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by Lilyana @, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 01:04 (3756 days ago) @ victorio

I'll be retiring in about a year and plan on spending winters in Mexico and Zihuatanejo has always been a first choice but now that I have a small dog that I am committed to and wouldn't dream of leaving behind I will also reconsider where to spend my pension income. Dog goes where I go!

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by Charlybby, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 01:49 (3755 days ago) @ rojo

I still don't get how the local gov can over rule the federal gov?! Locals have no jurisdiction over beaches. You never see tourists NOT picking up their doggie doo. It was only a problem 5/6 yrs ago or more when packs of wild dogs were running amuck. Don't see them anymore either. Love Zihua & would hate to go elsewhere for our 5-6 months of winter home:-) :brilliant: :kingtut:

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by katherine @, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 08:41 (3755 days ago) @ Charlybby

:megusta:

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by Madrina ⌂ @, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 10:21 (3755 days ago) @ katherine

I reside in Zihuatanejo 5 - 6 months each year and cannot imagine leaving my much loved, healthy and well behaved faithful canine companion behind. For the record, he was rescued by my Mexican neighbour and gifted to me, after being abandoned in Zihuatanejo to a life of sickness and survival on the filthy streets. He was subjected to the diseases that are endemic in the environment. He recovered fully and is now a healthy Canadian dog with "dual citizenship". For 8 years I have wintered in Zihua and been able to walk the beaches with my dog, following all regulations that are expected in the clean beachside communities I am familiar with in other parts of the world. I will always pick up after my dog, ensure he is not a problem for others and expect to be able to walk safely with my dog on a leash through the town. I would love to see more receptacles for garbage, more control of aggressive dogs. I hope that SPAZ is successful in educating the community in the true value of making Zihuatanejo a welcoming community for those of us who have invested and continue to support the city and it's people.

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by Charlybby, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 01:35 (3754 days ago) @ Madrina

What a great comment!!! Have to totally agree as we do in Z as we do at home, leash & poo bags.:-)

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by zihuadreamer @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:34 (3754 days ago) @ Charlybby

As a long time homeowner in Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo I wouldn't think of being there without my dog, I would seriously think of traveling and buying a home elsewhere. I firmly believe that people who travel with their pets are responsible pet owners, our pets have all their shots, we wouldn't think of not picking up after them and keep a close eye on them when out.

It's a shame that because of one restaurant owner on La Ropa a whole group of people aren't wanted. I for one stopped going to La Perla several years ago for this very reason. I also believe that the area has a much larger "fish to fry" than worrying about a responsible pet owner on the beach.

Implement some type of fining system for not taking care of your animal, fines paid to SPAZ. Maybe a local license issued by SPAZ for a fee, something that last longer than a few months. I for one would be more than happy to pay them for the right to take my dog to the beach. I would resent paying the city since I feel most of that money would go into someone's pocket rather than making any much needed city improvements.

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by Charlybby, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 23:26 (3754 days ago) @ zihuadreamer

Totally agree! That's a great idea & have no problem with it:-)

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Wednesday, August 03, 2016, 20:39 (3755 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Sorry that this has hit home for you, but really appreciate that you are using your great resources to try to take care of the problem.

We spent 5 months in Zihuatenajo last winter, and 4 in the 4 prior years. We are considering purchasing a place on Playa La Ropa, and dog regulations have a lot to do with it.

We support SPAZ-HKP by donating leashes and collars and cash. They provide a great service, and we usually end up having a couple of local animals neutered during our stay.

Our two dogs are both from Mexico-one from Playa la Ropa, and one from Puebla. We have managed to exercise and swim them early in the mornings pretty successfully, but would love to not have to worry about being harassed. We tried to get permits for them, but the woman in charge would not accept our letter from Dr. Grayeb.

We had a no dogs allowed ordinance on our Southern California Beach. When it got to be more than we could deal with, we had calm meetings with the harbor department and animal control. We finally came up with the following rules: Dogs, on leash, are allowed from 5pm to 9am. Why those hours? That leaves the lifeguards free from having to try to enforce dog rules. Owners/handlers must carry something (other than an article of clothing) to pick up their animals waste. That's it. Very straight forward.

Our morning walks always include strangers who miss their dogs and need dog love. We have had a number of people who have claimed that we make their vacations more enjoyable because they know they will see us in the morning and get the dog love they need to get them through their vacations. A couple have even said that they wouldn't be returning without knowing they could find dogs to talk to and love.

Until last year, we were the semi-official providers of dog love for the SOB volleyball camp held in Ixtapa in January every year. They do an afternoon/evening event on the beach at Playa la Ropa, and their participants feel much better after visiting with our dogs.

If there is anything we can do to help from here, do please say so. It's a very important issue to many of us, a quality of life issue.

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by Charlybby, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 01:38 (3754 days ago) @ Talley Ho

:dude:

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by Spaz Humane Society, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 10:22 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thank you everybody for your comments. It will be really helpful to let the authorities know what all the animal lover thinks. We hope that we have good news soon about this ridiculous law.

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by katherine @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:39 (3754 days ago) @ Spaz Humane Society

I just read in Despertar de la Costa that the local authorities have decided to eliminate this ridiculous rule. Due to pressure from the tourism sector. My Spanish is not perfect, but I'm pretty sure that is what the article said. If so, this is great news!!!

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:50 (3754 days ago) @ katherine

Please let it be true!!!!

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by katherine @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:55 (3754 days ago) @ Talley Ho

Rob, could you please weigh in? I read this article on Facebook. The headline reads, "Precion de turistas tumba prohibicion de mascotas en las playas de Zihuatanejo." Please excuse the missing accent marks!

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by OlsenMN, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 12:36 (3754 days ago) @ katherine

The headline is misleading. One needs to read the entire article, not just the FB blurb.http://www.despertardelacosta.info/news/presion-de-turistas-tumba-prohibicion-de-mascotas-en-las-playas-de-zihuatanejo/

It ends with: "En respuesta, el gobierno municipal a través del director de Ecología, Gustavo Gurrión Maldonado, informó que la prohibición se mantenía, aunque dejó ver la posibilidad de buscar opciones para permitir que perros entren a las playas con sus dueños, y la misma postura tuvo el director de Turismo, Juan Antonio Bureos.

Al respecto, ayer en entrevista la presidenta de la Oficina de Convenciones y Visitantes de Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo, Zandra Almada y Alatorre, informó que “estamos en eso, precisamente ayer (antier) estuve con la presidenta de la Asociación Protectora de Animales en la dirección de Ecología y hay una muy buena actitud de parte del seños Gustavo Gurrión de ver cómo se puede modificar ese artículo que está tan tajante de no mascotas”.

Dijo que se busca que haya un acuerdo de tal manera que haya “ciertos horarios, ciertos lugares para que los perros puedan entrar, para que así los turistas que han protestado y dicen que no vendrán porque sus perros no pueden andar en la playa sobre todo en la temporada de invierno que se avecina”.

Explicó que la solicitud de modificación al reglamento de playas para el libre paso de mascotas tiene que pasar por el cabildo, por lo que le solicitaron firmas y escritos que respalden la solicitud."

The important part is the regulation still stands, and the changes will include certain hours, certain places where dogs will be allowed.

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 12:39 (3754 days ago) @ katherine

My original comments at the opening of this thread stated that we are trying to get the law changed. Nothing has changed. We're still working on it. This is the reason why I wanted pet owners to weigh in here with their comments. For folks with opposing views or who just want to comment tangentially I ask that they comment in another thread on this subject so as not to confuse the issue and dilute the message. I expect "good" news soon.

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by Leemr @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 12:50 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Thanks Rob. You're an important part of this.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:46 (3754 days ago) @ Spaz Humane Society

In today's Diario de Zihuatanejo is a story that the Ixtapa Hotel Assoc. also would like to explore modifying the current municipal ordinance banning pets from our playas:

http://www.diariodezihuatanejo.mx/2016/08/asociacion-de-hoteles-solicitara.html

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by Atlanta Dave @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:42 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

My wife and I bought a home on the far end of Playa la Ropa in 2005, and for years have always enjoyed walking on the beach with our two little dogs, each 7 lbs. We travel with them and consider them to be family members. In fact, one of the reasons that we came to ZIhua, was that at that time it was a dog-friendly town where we could walk out the front gate onto the beach with our canine friends. We have always been very careful to pick up after them, and have never encountered anyone who objected to their presence, with the exception of one restaurant owner. During the last few years, however, we have been repeatedly confronted by rude "dog patrol" people, who have made a simple walk on the beach an unpleasant experience. These employees seem to do nothing to actually make the beach clean (like picking up trash), but sit around all day not doing much.
In addition to this being personally offensive to us, the current dog policies seem backwards, and are harmful to the economy of ZIhuatanejo. The clear trend in travel in the U.S. is towards INCREASING and not DECREASING dog-friendly travel opportunities. There are many articles on this (just Google "Pet Travel Trends";). The number of tourists traveling with their pets has doubled in the last 10 years from 19% in 2004 to 37% in 2014. The U.S. travel industry is meeting this demand by increasingly accommodating pets in hotels, restaurant outdoor areas, parks, jogging trails, etc. The articles also point out that it is expensive to travel with pets, which means those who do so have plenty of disposable income to spend on the local economies.
It seems odd and counterproductive for Zihuatanejo to ignore this trend in tourism and in fact to move in the opposite direction by actively DISCOURAGING those with pets from coming to Zihuatanejo. In the U.S., this amounts to something like 40% of the tourist market, and I suspect it could achieve the same numbers in Mexico. It seems to me that our town and its local hotels and restaurants need as many paying tourists as they can get. I encourage the local government to take advantage of this opportunity to increase tourism and to bring tourist dollars in Zihuatanejo by re-opening the beaches to dogs and responsible dog owners.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 11:55 (3754 days ago) @ Atlanta Dave

Yesterday, my husband, myself, our three pupsters, our friend Bonnie and her little chihuahua were confronted by the "ecology patrol guy" who told us that we were not allowed on Playa la Ropa, as we were walking along the non-beach path to Rossy's Restaurant for breakfast.

My husband clearly told him that we were NOT ON THE BEACH! GRRRRR!

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by katherine @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 12:09 (3754 days ago) @ Susan G

Hopefully this kind of harassment will soon end!

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by katherine @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 18:59 (3754 days ago) @ katherine

Sadly, I was mistaken. The headline was a bit misleading. The issue is being discussed, but nothing has happened yet. I'm sure Rob will let us know when it does.

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by Sun Seeker, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 13:44 (3754 days ago) @ Atlanta Dave

"Baby Boomers" I suspect is the reason for the increase of traveling with a pet.

Zihuatanejo would be foolish to turn their backs on the amount of tourists that fall into that time line. Zihuatanejo should be amping up the promotion of this lovely beach town. The weather is great, the food is delicious, living expenses are lower, and the people of Zihuatanejo are so sweet and genuine.

I'm there around 8 months of the year and seeing a dog on the beach always makes me smile. Children to adults love the company of a well behaved dog and for those that don't have one, it's nice to see them around.

I still shake my head that the beaches from Troncones to Barra de Potosi do not have garbage cans!
The sewage problem continues to go on year after year and Zihuatanejo officials are worried about dogs having a good time on the beach!
This is so silly.

Come on Zihuatanejo ..... welcome your tourists and their pets with
open arms. The alternative will cost the local economy dearly.

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by bob/medhat @, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 14:02 (3754 days ago) @ Sun Seeker

:megusta: the residents and or visitors with unruly dogs on any beach are the one who are Offensive!

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by Leemr @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 12:44 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

When having meetings with the city government concerning this law, it would seem that the person or persons from the certain restaurant on La Ropa beach should be present to voice opinions. I still don't know really what it is that
this restaurant objects to or why! Maybe a bad experience or two? Or maybe overhearing customers in the restaurant ranting about loose dogs running on
La Ropa beach? Those who are complaining should be included in meetings on the subject . . .JMO I live here year-round and it pisses my that I can't take my bull terrier to the beach for a romp swimming. He loves the water and often times it's hard to get him to come out when it's time to go. That, we don't do any more since this law was implemented. A very sad time for Zihua dog owners.

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by katherine @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 17:41 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Our dog loves swimming in the ocean, and so do we. Our daily beach walks and swims are a very important part of our time in Zihuatanejo. We are definitely cutting way back on our time in Zihua because of this regulation. Less $$$ going to the local economy.

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by Susan G @, Zihua/La Ropa, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 19:58 (3754 days ago) @ katherine

Imagine the money lost from residents who decide to go away from Zihua. When expats retire here to become residents, they are bringing at least $1,500-2,000 each month into this local economy. Approximately 600 residents live here full time, many of them have pets.

Not only expats but thousands of tourists also travel here with their pets and often spend 6 months here.

Multiply $2,000 by 600 equals more than 1 million dollars each month that could be lost to the Zihua community if all these expats, residents and tourists having pets stopped coming here.

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by Mexalberta @, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 20:38 (3754 days ago) @ Susan G

I don't think dogenomics is the headline that will keep people away

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by Talley Ho @, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 21:13 (3754 days ago) @ Mexalberta

Unfortunately, it will for us. In our moho, we have the ability to go anywhere. Fortunately, we have not yet purchased in Zihuatanejo, so may have to go elsewhere.

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by bob/medhat @, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 22:48 (3754 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I think there are more canine lovers than we think (even the strays), allways enjoy seeing pups taking their owners for a drag Lol! Seriously stop for a minute and imagine a life without man's best friend.

Pretty crappie Eh! Yup I am canadian:-D

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by Charlybby, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 23:42 (3754 days ago) @ bob/medhat

Canadian as well & all hotels in BC have pet friendly rooms. In fact, in summer here they sell out first! I hope to arrange a beach protest when we get there in the fall. Get all the dogs, owners, & anyone who is against this stupidity to walk La Ropa together! See what they will do then!

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by victorio, Thursday, August 04, 2016, 23:53 (3754 days ago) @ Charlybby
edited by victorio, Friday, August 05, 2016, 00:00

Hola
Totally agree. As far as La Perla goes, haven't been there for a few years since they were so rude to us about having our dog with us. Don't intend to ever go back there.

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by upnortnick, Friday, August 05, 2016, 07:13 (3753 days ago) @ victorio

It's called a "dog free" zone, and based on the business when I've walked by, it's pretty well received.

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by bob/medhat @, medicine hat, alberta, Friday, August 05, 2016, 09:29 (3753 days ago) @ upnortnick

It's called a "dog free" zone, and based on the business when I've walked by, it's pretty well received.

Well if it is this business that has brought about this issue why are there no comments here from them as to the issues they Have? Does anyone know for sure the beginnings of this?

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by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, August 05, 2016, 10:45 (3753 days ago) @ bob/medhat

It's called a "dog free" zone, and based on the business when I've walked by, it's pretty well received.


Well if it is this business that has brought about this issue why are there no comments here from them as to the issues they Have? Does anyone know for sure the beginnings of this?

I'm sorry if you all missed my previous comments regarding the purpose of this message tread, but I wanted this thread to only contain comments from dog owners affected by the local prohibition. I've asked folks with tangential comments to please make them in another thread so as not to dilute the message and confuse the issue. This thread is to be used by the people arguing to allow pets on the beach, and needs to be read by local public servants who do not all understand English. Thank you for your respectfulness and comprehension.

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by bob/medhat @, medicine hat, alberta, Friday, August 05, 2016, 10:48 (3753 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Point taken Rob. :-D

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by Mexalberta @, Friday, August 05, 2016, 17:05 (3753 days ago) @ Charlybby

Unless you and the dogs are members of the teachers union you may be asking for trouble

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by gemini67, Friday, August 05, 2016, 17:53 (3753 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

After 3 years of this dog sillyness by "officials" we will regretfully have to rethink our lenghty vacations in Z. I travel with my dogs for companionship and for security. My dogs are not 8lbs puppies, they are well behaved. I am not going to beg or plead to enjoy the beach or an occasional romp in the water. Many cities: Carmel, Portland, San Diego, Austin are very dog friendly, they realize that many people travel with four legged friends, as much as we enjoy Mexico and our many friends we see here year after year we will choose to spend our time and our money elsewhere.

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by Elena S @, Tacoma WA USA, Saturday, August 06, 2016, 11:51 (3752 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Encantamos los perros en la playa cuando visité a Zihuatanejo de Estados Unidos todos años. Nuestro perro es demasiado grande y no puede aguantar el calor, así no se traer, pero nosotros sentamos la falta y disfrutamos a ver y acariciar los perros en la playa. Es muy importante para la ambiente total a sentar cómodo a tener perros en la playa.
We have enjoyed the dogs on the beaches when we have made our annual visits to Zihuatanejo from the USA. Our dog is too large and cannot tolerate the heat, so we don't bring him, but we miss him and enjoy seeing and petting dogs on the beach. It's valuable to have dogs on the beach as a part of a complete and comfortable environment.

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by Cowtowngal1, Saturday, August 06, 2016, 13:47 (3752 days ago) @ Elena S

We bought specifically in Zihuatanejo 10 years ago as we were able to take our hypoallergenic dog easily on the plane and off for a jaunt each morning on La Ropa. We are extremely responsible pet owners and clean up after him. Being able to take a pet on the beach is wonderful exercise and great for the soul. Each morning we see many smiling faces and receive numerous positive comments from visitors and residents on the joy of having a happy dog on the beach which I believe is a benefit for all. It would be a shame not to allow pets as they are part of the family and bring happiness to all walks of life. Zihuatanejo has a laid back vibe which I believe is the charming aspect of our little piece of paradise. There is always Ixtapa as an alternative for other folks.

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by zihuadreamer @, Thursday, August 11, 2016, 17:50 (3747 days ago) @ Cowtowngal1

Any idea when this meeting will take place? I'm very anxious to hear the outcome.
Gracias

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by kristi in kc @, KCMO, Thursday, August 11, 2016, 18:51 (3747 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

To Whom it May Concern,

We understand that dogs are being banned from Zihuatanejo beaches. This is confusing to us because we've never experienced any problems or encountered anyone else who has had a problem with dogs on the beaches. There are many tourists, including us, that bring their dogs with them on vacation. We've been coming to Zihuatanejo almost every year since 1997. Starting out we only stayed for 7-days but now have worked our stay up to 17-days. We have brought our Chihuahua with us 7 times and his 8th will be this coming February. He is extremely well behaved, he's been through several levels of obedience training and has passed the test to become a certified Canine Good Citizen by the American Kennel Association. When we walk with him on the beach we always have bags and pick it up after him. Our walks are in the early morning and then at sunset as it's typically too hot for him in the middle of the day.

By banning dogs from your beaches you're depriving many tourists from the enjoyment of bringing their beloved pets with them on vacation. Please reconsider this ban. Otherwise, in future years we'll spend the money we have budgeted for vacations somewhere other than Zihuatanejo. The same can probably be said of the many other tourists who bring their pets with them on vacation.

Sincerely,
Steve and Kristi Ashton

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by cantinero46, Thursday, August 11, 2016, 21:35 (3747 days ago) @ kristi in kc

Kristi,what a great comment.We have visited Z since 1974; yes in a1968 van on our way to Guatamala,now we have a good sized motorhome,traveling with 3dogs..2 of which are from La Ropa beach,we are coming back this winter,saying hi to the doggie copsin the morningB-) :blush: