Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
We have been told there was a tourist car jacking in broad daylight on HWY 200 - 15 minutes north of Troncones. Car taken, but tourists left on the side of the road.
We want to confirm if this news is true. Does anyone have information on this?
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
by Talley Ho 
, Playa la Ropa, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 11:27 (2843 days ago) @ ANWJ
Where/How did you hear about it?
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
Where/How did you hear about it?
This whole story has a "Who's on First?" feel to it. Seems the conspiracy of silence that appears to cover local shootings - at least the reporting that might reach the tender ears of the tourist community - also includes stories of your common or garden-variety carjackings.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
by Talley Ho , Playa la Ropa, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 15:37 (2843 days ago) @ HolyMole
Back when we were touring Mexico in the winter, covering many many kilometers, we collected horror stories. Inevitably the bad thing happened to my sisters friend, a guy we met at a bar, someone who told me, etc.
Twice we actually met the people involved, once in an africanized bee attack and three years ago when Canadian Rainbirds had their tow behind stolen.
The stories we heard were amazing. They were probably based in fact somewhere back, but we know how word of mouth goes.
I like Rob's comment about doing an internet search and getting the information as directly as possible. That's always the best bet because we know if it's on the internet it's true. At least for this kind of thing, it's the bet bet.
I questioned the source for the "Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200" because the feeling I got was that it had just happened and was breaking news. Probably not....
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
This was posted by victorio yesterday within the thread Shooting on Paseo de la Boquota.
"Hola .Am surprised that there hasn't been any info on this yet. In the early morning, 10AM I think, an acquaintance of mine was driving north on 200 just past Troncones when he was stopped by a group of about 15 people blocking the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. A friend that knows the cartel boys called them and asked for the vehicle back. They admitted to taking it but said no because they liked the truck so much. I've heard that about 10 vehicles were hijacked."
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
This was posted by victorio yesterday within the thread Shooting on Paseo de la Boquota.
"Hola .Am surprised that there hasn't been any info on this yet. In the early morning, 10AM I think, an acquaintance of mine was driving north on 200 just past Troncones when he was stopped by a group of about 15 people blocking the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. A friend that knows the cartel boys called them and asked for the vehicle back. They admitted to taking it but said no because they liked the truck so much. I've heard that about 10 vehicles were hijacked."
It was mentioned in a post on 28 January in that same thread, by bouldergene, who said the incident was supposed to have happened in the past week.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
by Altona Stu , Altona, Manitoba, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 17:07 (2843 days ago) @ HolyMole
It happened on January 21, shortly after we (in an old, unobtrusive Suburban) passed that point on our way to Patzcuaro.
Notas periodísticas
by ZihuaRob 
, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 18:16 (2843 days ago) @ Talley Ho
Back when we were touring Mexico in the winter, covering many many kilometers, we collected horror stories. Inevitably the bad thing happened to my sisters friend, a guy we met at a bar, someone who told me, etc.
Twice we actually met the people involved, once in an africanized bee attack and three years ago when Canadian Rainbirds had their tow behind stolen.
The stories we heard were amazing. They were probably based in fact somewhere back, but we know how word of mouth goes.
I like Rob's comment about doing an internet search and getting the information as directly as possible. That's always the best bet because we know if it's on the internet it's true. At least for this kind of thing, it's the bet bet.
I questioned the source for the "Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200" because the feeling I got was that it had just happened and was breaking news. Probably not....
Por ejemplo...
Recorrimos la ruta del terror en Guerrero
Turistas temen transitar por la carretera Lázaro Cárdenas -La Unión-Zihuatanejo
Asaltan a 2 familias de turistas en la carretera de Zihuatanejo
Hay más notas si buscas.
Ya que este problema tiene años, es un poco difícil creer que no están enterados los residentes de Troncones. Si fuera yo un turista por lo menos querría saber que los residentes estén enterados y exigiendo que las autoridades pongan las pilas para vigilar mejor nuestras carreteras. Pero si ni enterados están, pues caray, peor aún. Es hora de despertarlos. ¿No lo crees?
Un saludo.
Notas periodísticas
by Talley Ho , Playa la Ropa, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 18:23 (2843 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
Notas periodísticas
by ZihuaRob , Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 19:23 (2843 days ago) @ Talley Ho
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Notas periodísticas
by Talley Ho , Playa la Ropa, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 21:23 (2843 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
Notas periodísticas
by jbmass , Mass,.. N.H...Zih., Friday, February 01, 2019, 09:38 (2842 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
Notas periodísticas
by frostbite , Hamilton MT, Friday, February 01, 2019, 20:04 (2842 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
Notas periodísticas
by islandgirl , Cowichan Valley, Friday, February 01, 2019, 21:03 (2842 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
I'd throw some cash into that project!
se me olvidó una
by ZihuaRob , Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 18:35 (2843 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
La mejor de todas:
Príncipe de Camerún visita Zihuatanejo para charlar sobre la paz
Quizás no se menciona Troncones, pero no hay duda de la región de los asaltos. Sí nos molesta la nota roja que menciona Zihuatanejo aunque es La Unión, pero nos preocupa igual.
He leído en Face varios comentarios año tras año de asaltos en este mismo tramo que nunca salen en los periódicos.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
by Hunter-MX , Troncones, Gro. Mexico, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 17:36 (2843 days ago) @ HolyMole
edited by Hunter-MX, Thursday, January 31, 2019, 20:20
Not to throw a monkey wrench in your conspiracy theory but it is entirely possible that we hadn't heard anything about this in Troncones. Just sayin'.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
Not to throw a monkey wrench in your conspiracy theory but it is entirely possible that we hadn't anything about this in Troncones. Just sayin'.
It's not my conspiracy theory.
Rob himself just wrote:
"You don't hear about it because there are many folks including the authorities and the residents in Troncones who prefer to keep such things quiet and out of the public light. Folks in Troncones including friends and clients are currently upset with ME for the parts in this conversation that portray Troncones as anything other than the proverbial Garden of Eden. They want to shoot the messenger even though it ain't me, babe."
We used to drive to Zihua from Canada. If I had my car here, I'd want to know about carjackings on Route 200. Years ago, Rob warned motorists to avoid the highway from Rte. 200 up to Ciudad Altamirano because of robberies, carjackings and general lawlessness. We followed his advise.
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And yes, you're forgiven for apparently being out of the loop.
Oops, forgot to add 
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
by midalake , Thursday, January 31, 2019, 18:08 (2843 days ago) @ HolyMole
Not to throw a monkey wrench in your conspiracy theory but it is entirely possible that we hadn't anything about this in Troncones. Just sayin'.
It's not my conspiracy theory.Rob himself just wrote:
"You don't hear about it because there are many folks including the authorities and the residents in Troncones who prefer to keep such things quiet and out of the public light. Folks in Troncones including friends and clients are currently upset with ME for the parts in this conversation that portray Troncones as anything other than the proverbial Garden of Eden. They want to shoot the messenger even though it ain't me, babe."
We used to drive to Zihua from Canada. If I had my car here, I'd want to know about carjackings on Route 200. Years ago, Rob warned motorists to avoid the highway from Rte. 200 up to Ciudad Altamirano because of robberies, carjackings and general lawlessness. We followed his advise.
And yes, you're forgiven for apparently being out of the loop.
ALL and I do mean ALL of our Mexican friends that come to Ixtapa, HATE leaving the last toll and coming to Ixtapa. They said travel in groups going 80-100mph and don't stop for anything. This can be well researched and I have been held up at gun point as well just past La Union [5 years ish ago] . Luckily we were allowed to pass.
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Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
After all the to-and-fro, including Rob linking to several news stories from 2016, 2017 and 2018, we still have no details on what apparently happened along Rte. 200 on or about 21 Jan/19.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.
A friend of a friend
by Ernie Gorrie , Saturday, February 02, 2019, 00:50 (2842 days ago) @ victorio
The friend of your friend may have conveyed completely accurate information about a real event.
A friend told me about a friend of his who saw a space ship. My friend may have been completely accurate in his report and his friend may have been completely accurate.
I have heard a lot of chisme over the years. Some of it seemed unbelievable. Some of the seemingly incredible was unbelievable for a reason; it wasn’t true. Some of it turned out to be accurate.
I’m not from Minnesota, which I understand is the “Show Me” state. But still, I would have more confidence if there were some independent confirmation.
A friend of a friend
Hola . This may seem like hearsay to you, but I will not identify my friend or my friend of a friend without their permission. I know them both. Neither of them are on this board. My friend that is in negotiations with the cartel boys also does not frequent this board. I would not have posted anything that I did not think was truthful. Make fun of me all you want. Good luck finding your spaceships.
A friend of a friend
by wisconsinjuan , Saturday, February 02, 2019, 07:55 (2841 days ago) @ victorio
Missouri, not Minnesota, is the "Show me" state.
A friend of a friend
by Ernie Gorrie , Saturday, February 02, 2019, 11:14 (2841 days ago) @ wisconsinjuan
Thanks for that correction.
Inspired by the correction, I looked up US state slogans. Some of them really reflect “Truth in advertising”.
Oklahoma - “Oklahoma is OK”
Nebraska - Nebraska: Honestly, it’s not for everyone."
Maine - “It Must Be Maine”
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_slogans
A friend of a friend
to be fair. I have a friend with a similar situation. Lives near the golf course. Used luxury vehicle, second hand, stolen as she was getting in the car. The friend asked a high ranking municiple employee to intervene. They did and were told they needed to pay 10,000 USD to get the car back. Gee, if you don't see the conspiracy in that, you need a road map. They told the govt official to take a hike and collected the insurance instead.
Car jacking 15 minutes north of Troncones on HWY 200?
Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.
Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say "there has been a lot of info on this subject", but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on "the problem", but nothing current.
There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently
"like to move on". There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.
Confirmation
by ZihuaRob , Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, February 02, 2019, 14:13 (2841 days ago) @ HolyMole
Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.
Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say "there has been a lot of info on this subject", but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on "the problem", but nothing current.There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently
"like to move on". There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.
I have had this incident confirmed by an unimpeachable source. I will not reveal any sources or victims because doing so places their lives at risk. I do hope my friends in Troncones will make an effort to bring this matter to the attention of their local authorities. I'm sure visitors and residents would be most interested to hear what La Unión's authorities have to say on the matter apart from politibabble, and especially what they are doing to prevent it from continuing.
Confirmation
Hola. There has been a lot of info on this subject, for the last time I will tell you what I know. At about 10AM a friend of a friend was driving north on 200 just north of Troncones. He was stopped by a group of about 15 people that had blocked the road. They were robbed of their possessions and their vehicle. The truck was a newer model vehicle with blacked out windows, just what the cartel likes. A friend that knows the cartel boys phoned them to ask for the truck back. They admitted to taking the truck but didn't want to give it back because they liked the truck so much. Negotiations to get the truck back are still in progress. About 10 vehicles were hijacked that morning.
Thanks Victorio. I never doubted your original story. I was interested in some corroboration. You say "there has been a lot of info on this subject", but other than you and the poster who first mentioned it, (in only the briefest terms), I haven't seen any of this other info you mention. Rob posted links to several old news items that provide historical perspective on "the problem", but nothing current.There are a couple of posters with limited attention spans who'd apparently
"like to move on". There's been a whole lot of deflection in this thread, but, other than from you, precious little meat on the bones of this story.
I have had this incident confirmed by an unimpeachable source. I will not reveal any sources or victims because doing so places their lives at risk. I do hope my friends in Troncones will make an effort to bring this matter to the attention of their local authorities. I'm sure visitors and residents would be most interested to hear what La Unión's authorities have to say on the matter apart from politibabble, and especially what they are doing to prevent it from continuing.
Muchas gracias, Roberto. And to Gringo Viejo and his peanut gallery: 
Confirmation
by cd69 , Winnipeg,MB,Canada, Saturday, February 02, 2019, 16:38 (2841 days ago) @ HolyMole
Same as per the shooting the other day near Plaza Kyoto, there are witnesses and yes, it is true and yes people have talked about it. But none of us that do know exactly what happened will give all the details on a place like here or the Facebook Zihuatanejo similar group for the same reasons Rob mentioned. It is the same reasons you can find on some of the local newspapers Rob list on his page some reporting about these crimes but they do not get in the details in order not to endanger their sources. A friend of mine is the editor in chief of one of these newspapers and we often chat about some of the local news and crimes do come up in conversations from time to time. What Rob has posted regarding this situation in Troncones and the Union area is not new. Troncones itself is a pretty quiet place and very little serious crime to report. But because of the lack of policing on either side and nearby, it gives free reign to cartels and gang activity and carjacking have happened. I can only hope we do not see an uptick in this form of crime as it sure could have a negative impact to the tourism for that area. For those living in that area, it is a part of life and for most, they are well aware of their situation.
Confirmation
by Oeste Hermoso , Zihuatanejo, Saturday, February 02, 2019, 19:31 (2841 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
I trust and respect Rob in this. Here is some perspective on why people are sceptical about the "friend of a friend" stories. I teach a course on investigation and fact finding (I have experience in both). The 1st lesson is people can only tell facts they observed (otherwise it is what’s known as ‘hearsay’). “A friend told me this happened” means they can tell what a friend told them. You cannot conclude that is what happened without talking to the person who actually witnessed what happened. 2nd, when you hear information about what happened you have to decide if the person giving the information is credible (“I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus”
) and if they were competent to observe what they claimed happened (remember cousin Vinny asking granny how many fingers she saw?). 3rd, is the information provided verifiable? (“Mine was the biggest inauguration crowd in history!”
). 4th, is it natural and probable and easy to believe? (insert another Trump reference
). The problem with someone on this Board saying this happened to a friend of a friend is that it does not meet the 1st 3 tests.
It is not that we do not like you or believe you.
We do but that is not the same thing as believing what you said a friend of yours said a friend of theirs said happened actually happened.
oh and I arrive March 39 for 2 weeks and my 63rd birthday for those who read this far.
Confirmation???
by Talley Ho , Playa la Ropa, Saturday, February 02, 2019, 19:38 (2841 days ago) @ Oeste Hermoso
I totally agreed with you until you said March 39!!
Confirmation
Hola. The reason that I said "friend of a friend ", was the same reason that Rob didn't name his sources, for their own safety. I know these "friends" and was just trying to protect them. If that makes you sceptical of my post, that's your problem. If that had happened to you or if you were a witness would you want your name spread all over social media especially in Zihua? I think not. I think that I am the only one in danger here. Get off of your high horse and get back to reality.
Confirmation
by ZihuaRob , Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, February 02, 2019, 21:22 (2841 days ago) @ victorio
Ease on up there, Hoss. Oeste is one of the good guys. 
Confirmation
by frostbite , Hamilton MT, Sunday, February 03, 2019, 07:08 (2840 days ago) @ Oeste Hermoso
Reminds me of a game we played as kids. We'd stand in a circle, the teacher would whisper something into the first kid's ear. That kid would whisper what he thought he'd heard into the next kid's ear and that would be repeated all around the circle. The last kid would say out loud what he was told and the teacher would then say what he'd said. Amazing how the story would change after being passed around.
