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The tragedy that befell Acapulco was terrible. I have some concerns about what will happen to Z. This is just musing, not gone through any real thought processes. I can imagine lots of scenarios. I have little doubt that some cartels will take a closer look, no idea who the cartel is in the area. It is likely that real estate prices will continue upward as a result, that’s great for property owners, but lots of my friends rent, so not good. Lastly if you were thinking of renting this season, probably you need to do that yesterday.

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Our chant three days ago was, "They're Back!"

Living in a tourist town, that is meant as a positive statement.

Yesterday, on our way back from the dog exercise, we walked by, and spoke to two different dog owners walking their dogs. We hadn't seen them since last season and they were pleased to see us and meet our new girl, now 11 months.

Today, we had breakfast at Las Adeitas, great place, and when we got there, no one else was there. COOL! By the time we finished, there were 5 tables filled. We tried to kind of slink out, but still had a table of 7 and a table of 2 say, "Those are the paddlers" We smiled, and twizzled our fingers.

Welcome back, we need you here!

Acapulco got their ass kicked. May they recover sooner than later.

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I don't think my air conditioners are going to be delivered from there tomorrow. :-( Hope they make a quick recovery with the governments help.

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We eat breakfast at Restaurant Las Adelitas weekly. We love the food, Maria and her staff!

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Cartels in that area are battling for control. No way to predict the future. As long as the USA has an appetite for drugs, the supply will be there at other’s expense.

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Cartels in that area are battling for control. No way to predict the future. As long as the USA has an appetite for drugs, the supply will be there at other’s expense.

“Poor Mexico, so far from God, so close to the United States.” -- attributed to 19th century Mexican dictator Porfirio Diaz

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Cartels in that area are battling for control. No way to predict the future. As long as the USA has an appetite for drugs, the supply will be there at other’s expense.

The cartels exist creating chaos because apparently that's what the U.S. government wants. There's no other excuse for the over half-century old "war on drugs" aka Prohibition 2.0 failed policy's continued existence. Most fentanyl deaths are because a recreational substance of choice must be bought from criminals in dubious quantity and quality instead of pre-measured doses with known strengths. Then the cartels of course expand into other lucrative businesses including prostitution, human smuggling and protection rackets, thanks to the endless supply of arms they have access to in the States.

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Cartels in that area are battling for control. No way to predict the future. As long as the USA has an appetite for drugs, the supply will be there at other’s expense.

The cartels exist creating chaos because apparently that's what the U.S. government wants. There's no other excuse for the over half-century old "war on drugs" aka Prohibition 2.0 failed policy's continued existence. Most fentanyl deaths are because a recreational substance of choice must be bought from criminals in dubious quantity and quality instead of pre-measured doses with known strengths. Then the cartels of course expand into other lucrative businesses including prostitution, human smuggling and protection rackets, thanks to the endless supply of arms they have access to in the States.

"Arms from the States" Looks like the same weapons the Mexican Army and Navy has. Maybe direct back door sales!! ;-)

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Cartels in that area are battling for control. No way to predict the future. As long as the USA has an appetite for drugs, the supply will be there at other’s expense.

The cartels exist creating chaos because apparently that's what the U.S. government wants. There's no other excuse for the over half-century old "war on drugs" aka Prohibition 2.0 failed policy's continued existence. Most fentanyl deaths are because a recreational substance of choice must be bought from criminals in dubious quantity and quality instead of pre-measured doses with known strengths. Then the cartels of course expand into other lucrative businesses including prostitution, human smuggling and protection rackets, thanks to the endless supply of arms they have access to in the States.

"Arms from the States" Looks like the same weapons the Mexican Army and Navy has. Maybe direct back door sales!!

Once again, I know that's what you would like to believe, but it has nothing to do with reality.

https://www.infobae.com/america/mexico/2021/07/08/nunca-tendran-mejores-armas-que-el-ejercito-mexicano-radiografia-del-arsenal-del-cjng/

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I wouldn’t say that Fentanyl is the “recreational drug of choice” rather an incredibly addictive substance foisted upon the US populace in the former form of Oxytocin by Purdue Pharmaceutical. A worse organization than the Cartels if that’s even possible. To be sure though the problem is demand driven as you have consistently stated. Now that horrible substance “fentanyl “ is being included in all sorts of other recreational drugs because it’s cheap and powerful but also deadly. Face it, fentanyl is really a poison. That’s the position the US Government will take to justify extreme and stupid measures to try to eradicate the blight that we (US) have caused. Nothing good will come out of this effort except look at what’s going on in other parts of the world to see how disastrous a US Government intervention could be if any effort to crush the Cartels would be. I believe this is a problem with no solution . There is no point of regulating Fentanyl it’s really just poison.

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YouTube Kensington, PA. Whole region of Philly dominated by fentanyl and heroin zombie addicts. Like Night of the Living Dead.

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When I worked in Nursing homes in the 2000's, a demented hurting old lady might have a prn (as needed) "Phen-Pop".It was a phentynal lollipop! Tell me Big Pharma didn't know what they were doing.

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There is no point of regulating Fentanyl it’s really just poison.

And fentanyl is just the beginning. Fentanyl is 50 times stronger than heroin. There are already designer drugs that are 10 to 100 times stronger than fentanyl.

The point of regulating recreational drugs such as fentanyl is that you will take the profit motive away from the cartels and their suppliers. The problem of addiction isn't going to go away. The Greeks figured that one out 2,500 years ago. As Rob pointed out, the drugs go north from Mexico, the cash and guns go south, and the cartels get stronger each year. By taking away their cash cow, we will reduce their influence and power substantially. Sadly, as some others have pointed out, the cartels have diversified their business operations and it may be far too late to eradicate them from society.

Mexican Gangs are becoming criminal conglomerates - The Economist

Fast Facts: How Cartels Are Diversifying in Mexico - ASIS International

Added benefits: Regulating and supplying addicts with these drugs will reduce the epidemic of overdose deaths. It is also vastly cheaper than continual funding of the middle-class welfare programs known as the DEA and for-profit prisons.

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Good points, but let's also appreciate the role of doctors
and pharmaceutical companies in this whole epidemic.
https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/09/opioid-lawsuits-generate-payouts-controversy/

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Good points, but let's also appreciate the role of doctors
and pharmaceutical companies in this whole epidemic.
https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2019/09/opioid-lawsuits-generate-payouts-controversy/

I don't doubt that some of the pharma executives are corporate slime and knew exactly what they were doing. Some of them probably came from the tobacco industry. However, when you are a doctor and your patient is complaining of chronic pain, what should you do? Our resident Good Doctor was an Emergency Room doctor so he didn't see patients on an ongoing basis. However, his take on the doctor/patient dynamic would be very much appreciated. Timmac, did you ever talk to colleagues who were faced with this dilemma?

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My in law, an internist, who is straight as an arrow, said docs used to be able to prescribe 3 weeks worth of hydrocodone to a patient in pain 15 years ago. She said try that today and you'll be getting a knock on your door from the DEA.
However the following from 2022 suggests more leniency might be taking place lately.
The pendulum swings both ways.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued new guidance for clinicians on how and when to prescribe opioids for pain. Released Thursday, this revamps the agency's 2016 recommendations which some doctors and patients have criticized for promoting a culture of austerity around opioids.

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Some of you may like to read this, it is quite enlightening. Somewhat related but not totally.

Wilful Blindness, How a network of narcos, tycoons and CCP agents Infiltrated the West Hardcover – May 21, 2021
by Sam Cooper (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Wilful-Blindness-network-tycoons-Infiltrated/dp/0888903146

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When I finished up doing Occupational Medicine. I almost never wrote for any Narcs. If I did, after the 1st refill, I referred them to a pain management doc who was in the practice who dealt with it. To add personal experience, my wife had a minor surgical procedure on her eyelid yesterday. She was automatically given an Rx for antibiotic ointment and Hydrocodone. We refused the Rx and I cut the doc a new one re: the automatic post op narcotic Rx.

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Very interesting flow of information, not what i expected from my original post, good information though.

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Think: The cockroach effect

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