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A few clouds made for painted skies in the morning, and there were more clouds at sunset, though no rain anywhere that I'm aware of. Some waves finally rolled into Zihuatanejo and along the coast, but they weren't very large, and many of the tourists that are here enjoyed playing in the waves at Playa Principal.

Most of the clients for local charter boats have been Mexicans so far this Christmas season. We still aren't seeing the number of tourists we're accustomed to for these dates. The lack of Gringos is quite notable and a bit worrisome, but the ones who are here and their northern neighbors the Canadians are breathing new life into many local restaurants and shops. It's been a very atypical tourist season so far. Most of the people who are here just aren't spending much money. Ixtapa's tourists don't even count anymore. They almost don't leave their hotels, and they don't make many purchases outside their hotels. Even the best situated restaurants in Ixtapa remain mostly empty day after day even though they have very reasonable prices. A shame the local government doesn't impose a penalty on hotels in Zona Hotelera I who don't offer alternatives to All-Included packages. Thank goodness for the tourism from El Bajío region and from our northern neighbors.

The surgeons at the local hospital Bernardo Sepúlveda are on strike due to the deplorable conditions of the hospital's infrastructure, so take care that you don't have an accident or otherwise end up at the hospital's emergency room.

The more news I see about everywhere else in the world, the more grateful I am to be right here in Zihuatanejo with my saint of a wife, our beloved family and so many wonderful neighbors who are like an extended family. I certainly feel like the luckiest Gringo in Mexico!

One of the nicest lodgings at Troncones that seems to have something for everyone is Casa de La Sirena. A luxurious private beachfront compound in Troncones featuring a 3-bedroom villa with a private pool, three 1-bedroom MiniVillas, and two side-by-side 2-story 1-bedroom bungalows that share a pool. Truly an oasis in paradise!
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Unos pescadores buscan su suerte en el agua cerca de la playa mientras unos nadadores hacen su ejercicio un poco más lejos de Playa Principal al amanecer en la bahía de Zihuatanejo donde también se ven unos veleros anclados.
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Regarding your mention about the lack of gringos, especially US gringos, I can’t help but wonder if it is due to the oppressive approach and talk of military action on the cartels from the Orange Turd, as noted in this recent article.

https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/trump-us-mexico-military/

I imagine that tourists who thought about going might have backed off not knowing how they might be received by the locals there with all of the Mexico-Mexican bashing from the whackos here in the US. I have had many people say to me “ do you think things will be safe there then” (of course and more so than here) as we approach our February 19th arrival date, which we are very excited about and of which could not come soon enough so that we can escape the pending 3-ring circus that starts up one month prior to our departure. Oh wait, the circus has already begun :-)

We look forward to our month there, enjoying the wonderful people, restaurants and other attractions like we always do each year and will hope that others will come for a wonderful visit to Zihua as well. Thanks for keeping us informed on Zihua, we appreciate it.

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You call that POS a turd? How dare you? :winkingface:

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All absurd political aside, a big part of the problem is Airlines (especially in the Midwest) make it so difficult to get to Ixt/Zih! We have been coming for 30 yrs, and could be down in 6 hours! Now with Delta and United flight schedules it can take from 19 - 31 hours to get there. I believe the Mexican Tourist Authorities have to put Ixt/Zih on a must visit list to attract visitors away from the Los Cabo’s and Concunish destinations. We are still trying to come down despite driving 8- 10 hours to catch a flight to fly down. Zih has been our go to place and we have been to Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta but Ixt/Zih is where we want to be! Someone or something has to change to bring those that promote tourism to bring back easy and affordable access to Ixt/Zihuatanejo so that more tourists can enjoy this Beautuful City and area! We come down to enjoy the people and culture not the politics!

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The customs process also can’t handle more than one plane at a time. Last week we intentionally carried on but still ended up behind another plane and took an hour for everyone to get their bags through the one x ray machine. It’d be nice to be offered to pay an extortion fee up front instead of having to wait and play red light green light. Having just flown to Cabo with many more planes I know it’s possible for the customs process to only take 5 minutes. This fiasco definitely doesn’t help the tourism problem.

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I've got family coming from Pittsburgh to Zih next Monday and leaving on the 31st. Only United flies up and back through Houston in one day. $1,400 in coach. These were the least expensive dates over the holidays and the best fare I found looking every few days back in October. Now that fare is over $4,000. I could book a non-stop flight from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale today with the same dates for about $300.

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I've got family coming from Pittsburgh to Zih next Monday and leaving on the 31st. Only United flies up and back through Houston in one day. $1,400 in coach. These were the least expensive dates over the holidays and the best fare I found looking every few days back in October. Now that fare is over $4,000. I could book a non-stop flight from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale today with the same dates for about $300.

Just a gentle reminder that Volaris flies direct from Tijuana to Zihuatanejo. Make your way to San Diego, spend a day or two in the San Diego / Tijuana region, and then fly to Zihuatanejo. No customs in Zihua since it is a domestic flight.

The Valle de Guadalupe is the Mexican wine producing region and is a destination all in itself. It's about 1 1/2 hours from Tijuana.

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> All absurd political aside, a big part of the problem is Airlines (especially in the Midwest) make it so difficult to get to Ixt/Zih! We have been coming for 30 yrs,

Sometimes one has to face FACTS. It is 100% political. The U.S. state department does not want us coming down here. Last year alone United lost their code share partner [went out of business] Delta was forced by the DOT to unwind their codeshare with Aeromexico [thought some flights seem to exist] and the DOT denied code share to Frontier and Viva Aerobus. I am sure if you complained to Jack B, he would laugh and throw it in the garbage. So for the record for the first time in my life there is not ONE American airline that codeshares in Mexico.
There will be no relief from Pres. Elect As Hat, as he is all for white nationalism. Enjoy whatever the future brings. B-)

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I'm not sure that's correct. I could book today from Pittsburgh with the same dates over the holidays for Cabo, Puerto Vallarta or Cancun for 800 - 900 and choose between United, Delta or American. The Mexican government says on the whole, tourism and international arrivals are up nicely year over year. ZIH is a small market, more like Huatulco where there are fewer airline choices and jacked up airfares.

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I'm not sure that's correct. I could book today from Pittsburgh with the same dates over the holidays for Cabo, Puerto Vallarta or Cancun for 800 - 900 and choose between United, Delta or American. The Mexican government says on the whole, tourism and international arrivals are up nicely year over year. ZIH is a small market, more like Huatulco where there are fewer airline choices and jacked up airfares.

Codeshare is a partner airline. So starting on Delta and connecting with AeroMexico and not having to re-ticket or re-check bags is codeshare.

Starting and ending with the same carrier is not codeshare. B-)

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> All absurd political aside, a big part of the problem is Airlines (especially in the Midwest) make it so difficult to get to Ixt/Zih! We have been coming for 30 yrs,
So for the record for the first time in my life there is not ONE American airline that codeshares in Mexico.

That's news to us. We fly from Atlanta to MEX on Delta and MEX to ZIH on "partner airline" Aeromexico, most recently on 11 Dec.

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> All absurd political aside, a big part of the problem is Airlines (especially in the Midwest) make it so difficult to get to Ixt/Zih! We have been coming for 30 yrs,
So for the record for the first time in my life there is not ONE American airline that codeshares in Mexico.

That's news to us. We fly from Atlanta to MEX on Delta and MEX to ZIH on "partner airline" Aeromexico, most recently on 11 Dec.

As I stated in my post "some" codeshare flights seem to still exist. But you can easily google the topic to be educated. B-)

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Gone to Cabo lately? Doesn’t appear the U.S. is stopping anyone from going there. Couldn’t have anything to do with Cabo having its $hit together. Grab your bags and out you go, no stupid X-ray machine to put your luggage through, Zihuatanejo in no way could handle big numbers of U.S. tourists. I know some of you are avoiding customs in Zihuatanejo and booking trips through CDMX so you can bring in what you are legally allowed to. Multiple flights per day from Los Angeles, Phoenix or Dallas to Cabo but offseason to Zihua only once a week. We also like New Orleans, multiple flights every day and talk about some good food and fishing. Don’t get me wrong Zihuatanejo is still my favorite place for a relaxing vacation but it has screwed itself not the U.S. government. We’re aging out and there is nobody coming to replace us. Zihuatanejo also screwed itself with the cruise ships no longer coming, Cozumel has so many cruise ships coming they are looking into limiting the numbers.

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Gone to Cabo lately? Doesn’t appear the U.S. is stopping anyone from going there. Couldn’t have anything to do with Cabo having its $hit together. Grab your bags and out you go, no stupid X-ray machine to put your luggage through, Zihuatanejo in no way could handle big numbers of U.S. tourists. I know some of you are avoiding customs in Zihuatanejo and booking trips through CDMX so you can bring in what you are legally allowed to. Multiple flights per day from Los Angeles, Phoenix or Dallas to Cabo but offseason to Zihua only once a week. We also like New Orleans, multiple flights every day and talk about some good food and fishing. Don’t get me wrong Zihuatanejo is still my favorite place for a relaxing vacation but it has screwed itself not the U.S. government. We’re aging out and there is nobody coming to replace us. Zihuatanejo also screwed itself with the cruise ships no longer coming, Cozumel has so many cruise ships coming they are looking into limiting the numbers.

I do not think Cabo and Zih are comparable destinations. Clearly the level 4 warning for this entire area has hurt US travelers coming here. B-)

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Gone to Cabo lately? Doesn’t appear the U.S. is stopping anyone from going there. Couldn’t have anything to do with Cabo having its $hit together. Grab your bags and out you go, no stupid X-ray machine to put your luggage through, Zihuatanejo in no way could handle big numbers of U.S. tourists. I know some of you are avoiding customs in Zihuatanejo and booking trips through CDMX so you can bring in what you are legally allowed to. Multiple flights per day from Los Angeles, Phoenix or Dallas to Cabo but offseason to Zihua only once a week. We also like New Orleans, multiple flights every day and talk about some good food and fishing. Don’t get me wrong Zihuatanejo is still my favorite place for a relaxing vacation but it has screwed itself not the U.S. government. We’re aging out and there is nobody coming to replace us. Zihuatanejo also screwed itself with the cruise ships no longer coming, Cozumel has so many cruise ships coming they are looking into limiting the numbers.

I do not think Cabo and Zih are comparable destinations. Clearly the level 4 warning for this entire area has hurt US travelers coming here.

True, that may have started it years ago and Zihuatanejo did about everything they could to make it worse.

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I think Zihua is caught in the downward spiral of less tourists so less flights on and on. It is not convenient to get here in many cases. I can think of several flights that have been discontinued from the upper midwest area. Apple/Funjet stopped their once a week non stop flights from a rotation of several cities maybe 8 or so years ago. Delta stopped the Minneapolis flight 4-5 years ago.United and American dropped several days of service from Houston Dallas and Phoenix over the years.

If you want a one or two week vacation, there are many places in Mexico and elsewhere that are much easier to get to.

The more something costs, fewer people can afford it.And the last two years have seen huge price increases. Way more than the inflation rate, especially for the seats up front. Hotel and condo prices are up the last two years also after being fairly stagnant for years.

But bad airline service is only one problem of attracting tourists here.

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Some interesting comments…supply and demand with Zhui being a small airport and can only handle so much traffic… it has always been more expensive to fly here… but the upside it is not overrun by tourists and most regular visitors love that about this area. Prices have gone up but they have all over the world… still cheaper to eat out and groceries than the tourist traps of Cabo, PV , Playa de Carmen etc. Enjoy the area for what it is and be glad it is not overrun yet!!!!

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P.S. you do not want cruise ships… do not add much to economics for a 12 hour stop!
See the comments on Cozumel!

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P.S. you do not want cruise ships… do not add much to economics for a 12 hour stop!
See the comments on Cozumel!

Would it not help to introduce tourists to the area and they would then potentially put it on their radar screen for a future vacation?

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Talk to people who have been coming for years and the amount of tourists has grown…just look at the development in the hills around Zhui. People travel more than ever …Huatco and Zhui are still the closest to old Mexico and not overtaken by development? Just my opinion

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Not to mention the insane increase in prices of everything, namely restaurants. Most of the restaurants we visited (and not even a single beachfront one) on our last trip were the same price and on a few occasions more expensive than eating out in Canada and we live in a very high cost of living area. We all know that Zihua restaurants do not have the same overhead. A few times we were the only people in the restaurant. Gee I wonder why? A few friends that visited the area for the first time last year all had the same to say about prices and most sounded like they wouldn’t be back.

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