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No Z like an Old Z

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, March 28, 2014, 11:35 (4537 days ago)

In the spirit of Throwback Thursday I offer some historical images.

Some old postcards:

Playa La Ropa - 1955
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Playa Las Gatas - 1955
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Zihuatanejo - 1960
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Adm. George Anson map or chart of "Seguataneo" from 1745.
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Excellent, Thank you!

by Harry, Friday, March 28, 2014, 12:18 (4537 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

No Z like an Old Z

by Canadian Rainbirds ⌂ @, Victoria BC and Zihuatanejo, Friday, March 28, 2014, 12:37 (4537 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

I noted the "Brackish Lagoons" behind Playa La Ropa. I wonder what kind of footings and foundations are under all the buildings there now? One medium local earthquake or one good tsunami--bye bye!

Like something out of an old movie...

by Harry, Friday, March 28, 2014, 12:50 (4537 days ago) @ Canadian Rainbirds
edited by Harry, Friday, March 28, 2014, 13:03

I'd just like to add something to my last note...a special thank you to Zihrob for that old British Admiralty map. It opens up a whole chapter about the history of the area and there are some amazing resources available online to read up on it.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/naval/p/anson.htm

But there seems to be a time discrepancy here. The Admiralty map is dated 1745. Anson's adventures pirating the Acapulco / Manila ship were around 1743. By 1745 Anson was back around the British Isles. If this map was attributed to him or his command, than there would have been a British expedition still in the area, because charting and sounding harbours like that is a detailed job.

The plot thickens. here's another reference saying that it was done in 1765.
There must have been a follow up expedition or it was drawn and published later....

http://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/Seguataneo-anson-1765

This is interesting too:

This map was drawn by the British Admiral George Anson just before his historic capture of the Spanish treasure galleon Nuestra Senora de Covadonga. During Anson's circumnavigation of the globe he and his crew, charmed by the beautiful beaches and tropical climate, wintered and resupplied in Zihuatanejo before daring the Pacific and making history. Local legends claim that Anson planted the region's first coconut groves. It is further said that some of Anson's crew mutinied; burning several ships, and married locally, settling in Zihuatanejo while Anson and remaining crew sailed westward. The unusual Zihuatanejo family name 'Verboonen' is said to derive from one of these unions. Though Anson makes no official record of mutinies at Zihuatanejo, he did lose some six hundred men and several ships – could some of them be here?

So it's possible that the drinking coconuts that we get on La Ropa are descended from trees that Anson introduced!!! I love it!!

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Life is ALWAYS more interesting than movies!

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, March 28, 2014, 13:51 (4537 days ago) @ Harry

While I can't help you resolve the discrepancy of the dates, an old diver friend and mentor of Lupita's named Oliverio Maciel rescued one of the anchors lost in a naval battle on 17 of February in 1742 between then pirate Anson using the captured ship "Centurión" with its 60 cannons against the Spaniards in the smaller ship "Nuestra Señora de Monte Carmelo", which ended up wrecked upon the rocks in front of where Casa Que Canta is now located in the area we call "El Eslabón", and the wood from that wreckage washed ashore for quite some time afterwards, giving Playa La Madera its name.

I believe several of the cannons were also recovered by Oliverio and one may remain at the museum (others allegedly adorn homes of some former politicians). I remember seeing one back in the early 70's that used to sit where Casa Arcadia now is but it is reported to have rusted apart from lack of care and exposure to the salty air.

I believe the anchor still sits at the Maciel property in Las Gatas.
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Las Gatas reef in c.1745

by mtyJ, Friday, March 28, 2014, 13:55 (4537 days ago) @ ZihuaRob

Is it me or the rock reef in Las Gatas is shown in the map?

I always thought it was man-made. And if so, Who did it?

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Las Gatas reef in c.1745

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Friday, March 28, 2014, 14:28 (4537 days ago) @ mtyJ

Is it me or the rock reef in Las Gatas is shown in the map?

I always thought it was man-made. And if so, Who did it?

I'm sure you're aware there have been people living in this region for thousands of years, long before any Europeans or their descendents passed this way.

Local legend has it that the Purépecha royalty who used to vacation here regularly from the region of Lake Pátzcuaro built the breakwater for their women and children to enjoy the sheltered beach.

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Las Gatas reef in c.1745

by superzanka @, Saturday, March 29, 2014, 19:52 (4536 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
edited by superzanka, Saturday, March 29, 2014, 20:02

The name of this king was Rey Calzonzin a King Tarasco form the high Mountains of Michoacan who traveled to Zihuatanejo (land of darked skinned women)with many of his wives.

He built this artificial pool to protect these women from the Sharks (tiburon Gata) who were abundant in these waters at that time...

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Las Gatas reef in c.1745

by ZihuaRob ⌂ @, Zihuatanejo, México, Saturday, March 29, 2014, 20:24 (4536 days ago) @ superzanka

The name of this king was Rey Calzonzin a King Tarasco form the high Mountains of Michoacan who traveled to Zihuatanejo (land of darked skinned women)with many of his wives.

He built this artificial pool to protect these women from the Sharks (tiburon Gata) who were abundant in these waters at that time...

Actually, I believe Calzonzin or Caltzontzín isn't a formal name itself (apart from being a town in Michoacán and a last name from the same region) but is a title that means "king" or "rey" in the Purépecha language, and the original word is "cazonzi".