Yesterday morning I watched the bomberos capture a crocodile, since I had just finished my morning swim I was quite interested in this scene. I have several decent pictures of the capture on my blog at www.zihuathyme.wordpress.com. I know there are many divergent feelings about crocodiles around here, so for those of you who are interested the blog is where the pictures are.
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KO
Thanks for the great photo's and it was nice to bring the New Year in with you both.
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Judy Mamou
Crocodile capture
by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 12:40 (4258 days ago) @ KO
Thanks, KO. Great story & photos!
Odd that the beach where they are removing this croc from is one where folks aren't supposed to swim due to the bacteriological health risk, so what is the reason for removing an animal that is simply looking to be left alone? It should pose little to no risk to anyone, especially if there were simple signs located near the estuaries with the 3 basic rules everyone who's ever lived around saurians should know.
- 1) Respect their space and they will respect yours. They seek no attention from humans and only want to feel safe in their own areas. If one is trying to return to its estuary from the ocean please don't stand between it and the entrance to the estuary.
- 2) Do not harass, provoke or bother them. If you do then you teach them that humans pose a threat.
- 3) Do not feed them. If you do then you teach them that humans are a source of food.
As to what they do with them, Protección Civil takes them to a lagoon near the airport that is already overpopulated with crocs, so since the crocs will now have to learn to compete more for food and territory we are essentially making them more aggressive and causing them to pose more of a danger: the very thing we DON'T want them to become (humans are NOWHERE near as smart as we think we are). I strongly disagree with the local government's policy of removing them whenever someone calls in a sighting (so PLEASE don't call in croc sightings to the Bomberos). The local crocs are normally nowhere near as aggressive as the gators in Florida, and in Florida folks have learned to coexist rather well with the gators, so I believe coexisting with the crocs here who exist in much lesser numbers here than the gators in Florida should be a piece of cake, but as usual we're blowing it by thinking we must dominate and control our environment.
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by HolyMole, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:19 (4258 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
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Odd that the beach where they are removing this croc from is one where folks aren't supposed to swim due to the bacteriological health risk....
Just before Christmas most of the local newspapers were running stories saying that recent testing showed all the local beaches were now safe, clean and ready for the influx of tourists. The national press, however, reported that the fecal count at Zihua's Playa Principal was still in the area of 340-385, while the maximum allowable for safe swimming was 200. They also gave figures for Playa Hornos in Acapulco, which were even higher than Zihua's figures. Unfortunately, I didn't read any figures for Playas Madera or La Ropa.
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by bob/medhat
, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:20 (4258 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
How far from the capture site are the beaches that are available for swimming??
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by KO
, Port Orchard, WA, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:25 (4258 days ago) @ bob/medhat
I've been swimming early morning at La Madera, less than a 10 minute walk from the canal where he was captured
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KO
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by bob/medhat
, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:29 (4258 days ago) @ KO
Have they posted signs letting the reptiles know what ares are not for them!! Lol
Unfortunately they do have to be relocated, whether it is a safer and more natural place is up to the agencies that deal with this.
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by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:44 (4258 days ago) @ bob/medhat
Have they posted signs letting the reptiles know what ares are not for them!! Lol
Unfortunately they do have to be relocated, whether it is a safer and more natural place is up to the agencies that deal with this.
To my knowledge there has never been a croc attack in Zihuatanejo Bay. So why do they need to be relocated? And each and every local attack that I have ever heard about has been for not respecting one of the 3 rules above with the exception of an incident at Marina Ixtapa where, in violation of the posted rules, a young man was cleaning his boat's hull during the season when crocs are protective of their nests, and he got a little nip for his his troubles. If Tamakún hadn't been trying to remove a croc from its natural habitat at Playa Linda the other day he wouldn't have been bitten either.
I spent many years in Florida living in close proximity with gators. Never lost a cat or dog. Never been attacked. Never had one enter our yard. But there was this rather stupid retiree on Sanibel Island who used to think it was cute to feed the gators, always clapping first to "call" them, so that when anyone clapped within earshot of one of those gators they would come looking for food.
In my opinion and from my experience, the best policy is always to leave them alone unless of course they need to be removed from your pool or yard. Then they should be moved to an estuary that does not cause them additional stress beyond the move itself.
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by bob/medhat
, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 13:53 (4258 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
edited by bob/medhat, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 14:44
Rob, in a perfect world which you seem to seek, all would respect the 3 rules you have noted but as we humans ( some of us) either can not read, don't believe or are thrill seekers pushing the envelope. These are the ones who seek the up close encounters with wildlife which teaches the dangerous ones that humans either have food for them or are the food.
So relocation protects us (the ones that can read, do believe and are not thrill seekers) from the dangerous animals of all parts of the world.
It should be up to us humans to ensure that these animals are being relocated to areas that reflect their natural habitat, unfortunately this does not all ways happen.
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by ZihuaRob
, Zihuatanejo, México, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 14:58 (4258 days ago) @ bob/medhat
I think you're confused about which is the dangerous species.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on turning everyplace into a Disneylandish managed theme park so humans can sleepwalk their way through life without any interruptions.
So should all the forests where humans visit also be emptied of bears, wolves, snakes, spiders, wildcats, really anything with fangs, claws, stingers or some kind of DEFENSE mechanism?
Now if you want to go after the lionfish invading the Caribbean then I'm with you on that one. 
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by bob/medhat
, medicine hat, alberta, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 16:50 (4258 days ago) @ ZihuaRob
I do think we have agreed on something, neither of us seem to be in favour of Disneylandish theme parks where the human race can pay to see wildlife in enclosures designed by humans who endeavour to believe they know what the animals natural habitat is.
I was surprised to see Tamakun back in action, I heard he was injured (broken leg maybe) after crashing his ATV?
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by allen
, Pacific Northwest, Thursday, January 01, 2015, 17:59 (4258 days ago) @ bob/medhat
Crocodiles have a range of @ 10 miles.
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by KO
, Port Orchard, WA, Friday, January 02, 2015, 06:44 (4257 days ago) @ allen
Exactly when is this "nest protecting" season?
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KO

