a question of ethics


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Posted by ZihuaRob from 200.65.88.104 (dup-200-65-88-104.prodigy.net.mx) on lunes, febrero 03, 2003 at 11:31:06 :

In Reply to: Re: A note about commissions posted by Dorado1 from 148.223.244.20 (148-223-244-20.cdnet.com.mx) on domingo, febrero 02, 2003 at 22:23:42 :

Careful who you accuse of mixing up facts. I haven't seen one fact yet in any of your replies. Only more disinformation and evasive answers.

But more to the point is the question of ethics. No one is trying to deny any local fishing captain any clients. It really matters not WHO gets the business. That's between a captain and his client. It's HOW.

In the past 10 years or so Ixtapa Sportfishing Charters has built up an excellent reputation at the same time they have brought millions of tourist dollars to our area. No other lone wolf captain, coyote or charter service has even come close to providing the quality of service or attracting the quantity of new fishermen.

What hurts the local industry is when people like you not only use too similar and intentionally confusing variations of the Ixtapa Sportfishing name (there are numerous webpages and sites designed by you that allegedly blatantly violate their intellectual property, though I won't name them here for obvious reasons) in an attempt to confuse and steal clients, but also intentionally misinform potential clients via the message boards and "helpful" e-mails as well as intentionally targeting, seeking out and approaching another business's clients with the intent to to steal those clients. You hurt the captains, the sportfishing industry, and our local tourist industry.

The marketing and promotion of Zihuatanejo-Ixtapa provided by a business such as Ixtapa Sportfishing Charters costs time and money. It is unethical for any other captain, agent, or "non-agent" to approach those clients to try to sell them a sportfishing charter, or to approach an agent brought here by them with a similar intent. Normally one would expect a simple "no gracias" to be enough to tactfully rid oneself of such a person and keep the incident harmless; however, we've seen this take on a new dimension here with the outright theft of clients, sometimes right on the pier in the morning while their hired captain is actually out retrieving his boat (a tactic that Whisky Water World was allegedly caught at) as well as high pressure tactics directed at agents as well as clients of another charter service.

So it leaves promotors and agents with very little incentive to keep spending money on the promotion of our area or to send their clients here as long as people like you, Dorado1, continue undermining their efforts by such unethical means.

A further note on ethics: Stan has never entered his own tournament, neither has his son, so he also never tried to be a spotter on his son's boat or had to be physically prevented from doing so while inebriated, as you have. He also never went as a spotter on any boats in his tournament, and so never had to be woken up from a drunken slumber by the tournament angler to witness a catch and release, as you have. Your own actions here have been witnessed by too many people for you to deny them, though you will certainly always be able to convince a few captains to be your "amigo" as long as they think they can make money from the relationship. Don't confuse economics with loyalty.

Maybe in Cabo such things might go unnoticed, but here in this small town you are under a microscope, as are all of us who live and work here. Maybe you can fool the visitors and foreigners but never the locals for very long. ;~)



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