"Kumbayah" with MAGATS?

Patronizing and insulting people you disagree with is not going to change the outcome of the election. I don’t speak for anyone besides myself (obviously), something that I think would humble you and help your cause, but I personally voted for him because I thought he was more fit for office than Kamala regardless of the names you call him. That’s it. It’s not complicated. Outside of this forum no one cares if you hate him or his appointees, so continue to scream into the void if it brings you peace or conversely listen to your friends and neighbors and let them tell you why they voted for him and try to reach common ground.

Surfguy, you're fighting a losing battle. You're trying to deal rationally, without patronizing or insulting, with people who harbor a visceral hatred for Trump. There is nothing you could say or facts you could present that could possibly overcome this hatred. The best thing people can do at this point is take solace in the fact that none of the gloom and doom that they are predicting now actually happened in his first term. In fact inflation was low, unemployment was low, fuel prices were low, the border was more secure and there was no major conflicts or wars around the globe.

None of what you wrote is true or is attributable to the Insurrectionist. He didn't fix anything, including the border, and he's not going to fix anything this time. But thanks for demonstrating that my previous comments were true: not one cult follower comments on the fact they voted for a CRIMINAL, a TRAITOR, a SEXUAL PREDATOR or an INSURRECTIONIST. It isn't hate that people have against him, it's a desire not to have such an immoral incapable untrustworthy irresponsible person in the White House. Last time all he did was enrich himself and try to use the government to take out vengeance against people he didn't like, and that's all he's going to do this time. The fact you all keep ignoring that he's such an obvious threat to the country and to the world only speaks poorly about you and your lack of good judgement. There is no good excuse to have voted for him, but thanks to Fox News, low-information voters, and hateful people, once again innocent people will suffer and die needlessly while he continues enriching himself and spreading his lies and hate. The part of U.S. society that supports him is seriously mentally ill.

None of what I wrote is true or attributable to Trump?

Inflation for Obama 4 years. 1.4 Inflation was low under Trump
Trump 4 years 1.9
Biden. 3+years 5.2

Unemployment Trump. 2017 4.4. Unemployment was low under Trump
2018 4.0
2019 4.0
2020 3.6
Anything under 5% is considered full employment .

Illegal border crossings by year: 2017. 310K Illegal immigration was much lower than under Biden.
2018. 404K
2019. 859K
2020. 402K
Biden 2021. 1.7 Million
2022 2.2 Million

Gasoline Prices by year. 2017 2.47 per gallon The price of fuel much lower than under Biden.
2018. 2.36
2019 2.55
2020. 2.19
Biden 2021. 3.30
2022. 3.21
2023 3.13

Someone once said it's the economy stupid.